Sweet. by mthillbilly » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:24 pm, Post A "lite" version of a Sun - SF Flathead- Sun 100 mile loop we did last July. Really hope to do Numbers 2 and/or 3 someday . Packraft the Bob, this year. Did almost the same trip but started on NF Sun, went over Larch Hill and pulled out @ Spotted Bear. It’s probably just as good up to, if not above, Needle Falls, but I haven’t gotten there yet. Falcon, 2001. The lower half is another matter, and runs between steep forested walls with almost no respite. Wilderness trekking and packrafting training program for Scouts and Venturers in America’s most remote wilderness! Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex Southern Half, Cairn Cartographics, Missoula, MT "Bob Marshall," "Great Bear," and "Scapegoat Wilderness Complex," USFS Northern Region, 1990; Books: Molvar, Erik, Hiking Montana’s Bob Marshall Wilderness. Harcourt Inc, 1978. Now encompassing over 1.5 million acres, this area harbors a trove of natural treasures for generations to come. The Bob Marshall is so rich with alternatives for the angler, we can design a truly unique wilderness angling experience like no other outfitter. I dream of a hard and brutal mysticism in which the naked self merges with a non-human world and yet somehow survives still intact, individual, separate. Explore. Dave walking up toward Stadler Pass . The following itinerary outlines what you can expect on a typical 5-day Montana riding vacation and pack trip into the Bob Marshall Wilderness: Day One. NF Sun River, Bob Marshall Wilderness. 2-3000 cfs on the South Fork is a good level, lower if you’re less experienced on whitewater. DaveSLC Posts: 57 Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:58 pm Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. Glacier NP and Bob Marshall Wilderness Montana. One of these days I will meet up with fellow packrafters in the wilderness... Rock Creek looked floatable when we hiked up to Larch Hill. Packrafting specific workshops, classes, races, meet ups... 1 post • Page 1 of 1. Longtime wilderness advocate, guide and author Bill Cunningham took a packrafting trek into the Bob Marshall Wilderness in mid-July, only five… Montana News The Wilderness Act Home Board index Packrafting Trips USA Montana; NF Sun River, Bob Marshall Wilderness. Packrafting in the Brooks Range, Alaska - Duration: 5:17. terrapascal08 20,467 views. Guided packrafting in the US is still not widespread, including in the Bob Marshall Wilderness. It goes at 250 cfs, while I imagine anything above 500 is quite pushy and another level of difficulty entirely. The Bob Marshall wilderness complex (Bob Marshall, Scapegoat and Great Bear Wilderness areas) offers over 1.5 Million acres of forests, mountains and crystal clear streams and rivers, and was America’s first ever designated wilderness area. Explore. Little did I know that my first packraft in the Bob would be the best around. What a summer of packrafting it has been. What: Packrafting, fishing, backpacking and hiking Danaher creek, South Fork of the Flathead River, the White River, and West Fork of the Sun River in the Bob Marshall Wilderness in Montana. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! This almost doesn’t count as a wilderness run, and thus isn’t quite proper packrafting, but it is a fantastic whitewater run in a gorgeous setting. North Fork Packs; Packraft Straps; Stickers; Packrafting the Crown of the Continent ; January.29.2018 DaveC 10 Comments on Packraft the Bob, this year. Doig, Ivan, This House of Sky (Landscapes of a Western Mind). 10: Middle Fork of the Flathead, origin to Cox Creek. Bob Marshall Wilderness . Penguin Books, 1984. In 2016, I did this four-day trip, floating some of the most pristine, remote waters in the lower 48 states, and hiking through the largest roadless wilderness. The Bob Marshall is so rich with alternatives for the angler, we can design a truly unique wilderness angling experience like no other outfitter. The Bob Marshall offers three large rivers in particular (the South Fork Flathead, the Middle Fork Flathead, and the Spotted Bear) that collectively provide more than one hundred wilderness miles of outstanding packraftable water. Ideal packrafting levels are around 4-5000 cfs on the South Fork at Twin Creeks. The Bob Marshall Wilderness extends for 60 miles along the Continental Divide that separates the Flathead and Sun River drainages. ProvoBros-Bob-Marshall-Wilderness-8. by southwest » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:42 am, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. Fast forward to 2018, and we were packing up for a 10-year anniversary trip through “The Bob” in northwestern Montana - a network of wilderness complexes comprised of a million and a half acres. If you don’t live around here doing a packrafting trip in the Bob Marshall is a pain. Really … Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. We will pack your gear and your float equipment and can also pack you in if you aren’t up for the long hike into the South Fork of the Flathead River. Packrafting on Hiking the Bob Marshall Wilderness. Like the West Fork, 500 cfs is probably close to the lower limit in these upper stretches. 19 posts • Page 1 of 1. mthillbilly Posts: 12 Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:14 am. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. And this stretch has ridiculous fishing. The Middle Fork is a big river with an even bigger basin. Done. 5: North Fork Blackfoot, first pack bridge to last road bridge. It’s basically a large loop starting at the Benchmark TH in the Bob. Pentagon to Dean probably deserves a higher spot on this list. You can kick back and enjoy the floating, scenery, and ambiance at all once. The Bob Marshall Wilderness Open; The B&P Store. Travel. It contains the valleys, lakes and streams that make up the headwaters of several rivers including the South Fork of the Flathead River. Zion National Park .. This will be an epic trip during the perfect time, where the flows will be good, the trout hungry, and before wildfire season kicks off! . An invite to join Dave and others for a trip to the Bob Marshall Wilderness was an excellent excuse to finally get up and see the “Bob.” Our party ended up consisting of myself, Dave, M and Spencer. 1: Youngs Creek, from Hahn Creek to the South Fork. BOB MARSHALL WILDERNESS (AP) — As Scott Bosse launched his packraft in Youngs Creek, it felt as if gravity disappeared. 49 miles hiking and 19 miles floating the South Fork of the Flathead River through the middle of the Bob Marshall Wilderness, Montana. Adventure Pack Trips . by forrestmccarthy » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:40 pm, Post The 1.5 million acre Bob Marshall Wilderness is considered by many to be the crown jewel of America’s wilderness system. Our first day began with a sweety hike to the headwaters of the South Fork of the Flathead. One of the defining characteristics of packrafting should be that you feel way out there while doing it. Moderate, remote, with a transitory season and just enough wood to keep you on your toes: the North Fork of the Sun is an absolutely classic packrafting river. ( Log Out /  @davec. The Montana High Adventure Base (MOHAB) is a nationally accredited Boy Scouts of America High Adventure Base that offers trekking in one of the largest and most remote wilderness areas in the United States. An invite to join Dave and others for a trip to the Bob Marshall Wilderness was an excellent excuse to finally get up and see the “Bob.” Our party ended up consisting of myself, Dave, M and Spencer. Much below 500 cfs on the South Fork Sun near Augusta is probably too little to be enjoyable. Elevations vary from 4000’ to 9000’. CHECK OUT OUR INSTAGRAM! Looks like great fun. I found packrafting in the summer of 2015 on a three-week trip in Montana’s Bob Marshall Wilderness. 4 posts • Page 1 of 1. The quality and variety of this run surprised and impressed me. Surrounded by howling wolves at night and chased by a bull moose, this trip was one for the ages! With over 30 years of experience in the “Bob”, we will take you into the pristine backcountry for a memorable Bob Marshall Wilderness experience that will inspire you for life. on The 10 best packraft runs in Bob Marshall country, Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), The 10 best packraft runs in Bob Marshall country, Middle Fork of the Flathead, origin to Cox Creek, Spotted Bear River, Beaver Creek to South Fork of the Flathead, North Fork of the Sun River, Wrong Creek to Headquarters Creek, West Fork of the Sun River, Ahorn Creek to Gibson Reservoir, South Fork of the Flathead, Bear Creek to Cedar Flats, North Fork Blackfoot, first pack bridge to last road bridge, South Fork of the Flathead, Big Prairie to the White River, The White River, South Fork White confluence to the South Fork of the Flathead, Middle Fork of the Flathead, Schafer Meadows to Granite Creek, Youngs Creek, from Hahn Creek to the South Fork, Packraft the Bob, this year – Bedrock & Paradox, North Fork Falls Canyon – Bedrock & Paradox. Tag Bob Marshall Wilderness Illegal Helicopter Landing Spurs Bill for Harsher Penalties. In this final wilderness stretch the South Fork equals is not exceeds anything on the Middle Fork in depth and profundity, and forms a truly impressive valley with rapids, huge pools, hanging gardens, and some fantastic campsites. I like to split the difference and have the big views of the uppermost section with a taste of the whitewater, deep pools, and brilliant cobbles of the lower sections. Longtime wilderness advocate, guide and author Bill Cunningham took a packrafting trek into the Bob Marshall Wilderness in mid-July, only five… Montana News The Wilderness Act Your precious time isn’t spent setting up and breaking down camp, but rather enjoying your Bob Marshall Wilderness fly fishing experience. BOB MARSHALL WILDERNESS – Paddling his packraft deftly but quickly, Jared White appeared to be stuck between a rock and a hard current. The first and third time we entered the Bob (Bob Marshall Wilderness) via the Young’s Creek Pass off of Lodgepole Trail Head(just north of Ovando, MT) and the second we started from Bench Mark (West of Augusta, MT) and went in on the South Fork of the Sun then up and over White River Pass. “I find it tremendously liberating,” Bosse said of packrafting. Drop & Float Services - Bob Marshall - 406 Wilderness Outfitters Drop & Float Services In addition to guided fishing trips, we offer drop & float trips on the South Fork of the Flathead River. Dave walking up toward Stadler Pass . I found packrafting in the summer of 2015 on a three-week trip in Montana’s Bob Marshall Wilderness. Normally I don’t go in for lists; subjectivity makes them an absurd exercise and I intentionally do not indulge in traffic-driving techniques or cater to folks poor attention spans. We are Bob Marshall Wilderness Outfitters specializing in summer and early fall traditional horseback family vacations. Post by DaveSLC » Wed May 21, 2014 11:07 pm Here's a link to Dave Chenault's guide to Glacier and the Bob. Looking for a great trail in Bob Marshall Wilderness, Montana? Travel Destinations. Originally established in 1941, the Bob Marshall Wilderness Area was named in honor of the late Robert Marshall, a strong wilderness preservation advocate and member of the Forest Service. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Details of the loops – Hiking would start from the Benchmark TH up Stadler pass to Danaher creek, roughly 16 mile hike. Your precious time isn’t spent setting up and breaking down camp, but rather enjoying your Bob Marshall Wilderness fly fishing experience. Tell us how you would use $10,000 to make your goals of Access for All a reality. Morrison to Granite is much milder, but similarly scenic. Thank you for sharing your great video. BOB MARSHALL WILDERNESS — Paddling his packraft deftly but quickly, Jared White appeared to be stuck between a rock and a hard current. Aug 13, 2018 - Experience the wild and remote wilderness of Montana by water. The result is a rollercoaster of continuous moderate whitewater with minimal concern about wood. Ideal packrafting levels are around 4-5000 cfs on the South Fork at Twin Creeks. . Rowdy when the South Fork is at 5000 cfs, and just fun when it’s at 1500. 350 is probably a good compromise. Wilderness trekking and packrafting training program for Scouts and Venturers in America’s most remote wilderness! AllTrails has 10 great hiking trails, forest trails, views trails and more, with hand-curated trail maps and driving directions as well as detailed reviews and photos from hikers, campers, and nature lovers like you. The Three Forks section between the end of Schafer and Morrison Creek is the steepest few miles on the river, and features several very challenging boulder garden rapids. Gearing up for a challenge? Starting on July 3, 2012 at the Benchmark Trailhead Tom Turiano, my six-month old border collie, and I spent five days connecting the two drainages in a grand 120-mile packrafting loop. June 26, 2020 July 1, 2020 moldychum. Tori.newburn Posts: 3 ... I’m looking for partners to join me Packraft and fly fish the South Fork of the Flathead River in the Bob Marshall Wilderness this July! Six Montana paddlers took a five day backpacking and packrafting trip into the Bob Marshall Wilderness to float about 56 miles of the South Fork of the Flathead River in BRETT FRENCH/Billings Gazette Scott Bosse, left, and Chris Solomon carry their packrafts around a logjam on Youngs Creek in the Bob Marshall Wilderness Area. ( Log Out /  An ideal packrafting level is between 2000 and 4000 cfs at West Glacier, higher if you’re skilled, lower if you’re less so. Change ). Thanks Dan. There are many trip options for summer pack trips that Salmon Forks Outfitters offers, but perhaps you did not see a specific location or route that you have always dreamed to access. The White is an ideal packrafting river; incised in a broad valley away from heavy trees with a continuous but not steep gradient. Meadow Creek gorge bears caution and a helmet, but at low water isn’t as formidable as is commonly portrayed. The first and third time we entered the Bob (Bob Marshall Wilderness) via the Young’s Creek Pass off of Lodgepole Trail Head(just north of Ovando, MT) and the second we started from Bench Mark (West of Augusta, MT) and went in on the South Fork of the Sun then up and over White River Pass. Vaguely roadside, but the quality makes up for the number of day-tripping fly fishers you’ll see. ( Log Out /  It was not just about the feeling of traveling with a river’s current or across eddy lines. Originally established in 1941, the Bob Marshall Wilderness Area was named in honor of the late Robert Marshall, a strong wilderness preservation advocate and member of the Forest Service. With Salmon Forks Outfitters’ Bob Marshall Wilderness fly fishing trip, you camp at the headwaters of the fishery, and each day break out to a variety of areas to walk and wade. by forrestmccarthy » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:06 pm, Post 4: South Fork of the Flathead, Big Prairie to the White River. . ( Log Out /  3: The White River, South Fork White confluence to the South Fork of the Flathead. 7: West Fork of the Sun River, Ahorn Creek to Gibson Reservoir. We planned a nice 172km hiking/packraft loop on the classic South Fork Flathead and North Fork Sun Rivers. The first and third time we entered the Bob (Bob Marshall Wilderness) via the Young’s Creek Pass off of Lodgepole Trail Head(just north of Ovando, MT) and the second we started from Bench Mark (West of Augusta, MT) and went in on the South Fork of the Sun then up and over White River Pass. With Salmon Forks Outfitters’ Bob Marshall Wilderness fly fishing trip, you camp at the headwaters of the fishery, and each day break out to a variety of areas to walk and wade. There is no disadvantage to running this stretch very low indeed, 600 cfs at Twin Creeks works just fine. May 20, 2020 - Experience the wild and remote wilderness of Montana by water. Viewing 5 posts - 1 through 5 (of 5 total) Forums are supported by our merchant partners . 2: Middle Fork of the Flathead, Schafer Meadows to Granite Creek The Middle Fork is a big river with an even bigger basin. Taken as a whole the South Fork is without question the best packraft in the Bob, but which section you prefer will always be a good subject for debate. Post by mthillbilly » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:45 am Just got done with this trip on July 10th. In 2016, I did this four-day trip, floating some of the most pristine, remote waters in the lower 48 states, and hiking through the largest roadless wilderness. Please log in using one of these methods to post your comment: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. by cwhitlock » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:13 am, Post The following itinerary outlines what you can expect on a typical 5-day Montana riding vacation and pack trip into the Bob Marshall Wilderness: Day One. It contains the valleys, lakes and streams that make up the headwaters of several rivers including the South Fork of the Flathead River. BPL Member. Jun 9, 2015 at 7:51 am #2205711. It’s at the top of my list to re-visit next year. The route was almost identical to a trip T and I did back in 2012 except this … The Montana High Adventure Base (MOHAB) is a nationally accredited Boy Scouts of America High Adventure Base that offers trekking in one of the largest and most remote wilderness areas in the United States. North America Travel. I am looking forward to heading out there the second half of September. May 20, 2020 - Experience the wild and remote wilderness of Montana by water. Bob Marshall Wilderness . Article from thesummitregister.com. The robust smells of campfire coffee and fresh mountain air will wake you as you stir from your cot and step out of the tent into a crisp, Montana wilderness morning. 8: North Fork of the Sun River, Wrong Creek to Headquarters Creek. Disclaimer; along with the forks of Birch and Badger Creeks, the Spotted Bear above Dean is one of the few guaranteed to be good things in the Bob I haven’t yet run. Beginning alt ~5350ft, gaining nearly 1600ft up Stadler pass then dropping close to 1900ft down to Danaher creek. The Bob Marshall offers three large rivers in particular (the South Fork Flathead, the Middle Fork Flathead, and the Spotted Bear) that collectively provide more than one hundred wilderness miles of outstanding packraftable water. Nice article Dave, thanks! The 1.5 million acre Bob Marshall Wilderness is considered by many to be the crown jewel of America’s wilderness system. Like the White, the West Fork flow drops faster and sooner than the larger rivers discussed here. To make things more rigorous, I’ve restricted myself to listing sections of no more than 10 miles. Youngs is small, clean, fairly technical, and absolutely gorgeous. 2: Middle Fork of the Flathead, Schafer Meadows to Granite Creek. Unlikely the North Fork of the Sun will have enough water in August. 406 Wilderness Outfitters helped me check this off my bucket list. Packrafting Big Salmon Lake Bob Marshall Wilderness, Montana. Home › Forums › Campfire › Post-Trip Reports › Packrafting on Hiking the Bob Marshall Wilderness. Article from thesummitregister.com. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. by Big Mitch » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:29 am, Post As mentioned, the upper half, from Strawberry Creek down to Schafer, meanders through hills and gentle valleys with big views and mild water. Packrafting in the Bob Marshall Wilderness Area. Paradox and bedrock. Travel. Packrafting in the Bob Marshall Wilderness Area. With over 30 years of experience in the “Bob”, we will take you into the pristine backcountry for a memorable Bob Marshall Wilderness experience that will inspire you for life. One of the best places to feel this is the uppermost 10 miles of the Middle Fork of the Flathead, which starts very close to the most remote place in the Bob. Too many logjams? It’s good at any level between 1000 and 10,000 cfs at Twin Creeks, but somewhere around 4000 is probably the best compromise of a fast river and good whitewater action with clear water and good fishing. Elevations vary from 4000’ to 9000’. The experience was a once in lifetime, some of the best views and landscapes that this country has to offer. Good morning, Bob Marshall Wilderness, I think to myself. Went into the Bob over Route Creek Pass and jumped on the river at the bottom of the trail … Dan. Adventure Pack Trips . While I was already an avid whitewater paddler and backcountry hiker, packrafting clarified my love for the backcountry into something more simple. Preface: The Bob Marshall Wilderness Open is an event contrived and hosted by BPL’s own Dave Chenault. Zion National Park .. Overall Packrafting mileage is around 31 – 33 miles for loop A, and about 50 – 52 miles for loop B. 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